I know all about what your saying... I think I am being misunderstood or I'm not very clear.. I agree rates should not be enforced the way people do. Why I'm saying is if someone is seeing lag on their end helping them set the correct rates will help their lag. My lag I had wasn't seen by people in the server. It was seen by me... now I'm not saying we be rate nazis about it I'm saying if someone's seeing lag or choke thiscould still be a possible solution